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2008-01-28
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Leaping into SLR panos....

My wife just was given a Nikon D70s by her boss and this could be the clincher for us to finally move to DSLR panos.

We've got 2 kits which I would sell on ebay or something.

Coolpix 8400 with FC-E9 + agnos mrotator head

Coolpix 8700 with FC-E9 + Kingpano rotator

We stitch with panoweaver 5.0 and build tours with Tourweaver 3.0

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I've read through tons of threads and I'm pretty much settled on getting a Sigma 8mm F/3.5 EX DG lens.

Now for the questions (I have a thousand of them but do not want to abuse of you kind people):

Is the D70s a good body for making panos or should I sell it also and get something else ?

Should I go with an Agnos head and which one is the best for the D70 body ?

Please confirm that this setup would allow 4 image panos as this already is a big step up from the 3 image panos we are currently doing.

Any tips on basic settings for the D70s would be appreciated.  (I've seen a thread on this but can't seem to be able to locate anymore)

Thanks

PS.  Smooth, I might have to request some paid services from you once I make the move and that the recommended equipment is in.   I'd like for us to create an efficient process flow that would end up in mid to high end quality panos.


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2008-01-29
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You still need a fisheye lens to take 4 drum type images around the horizon.

Keep in mind that the Nikon D70 has a 1.5 crop factor.

The standard 18-70mm can not be used with Panoweaver 5 to stitch panoramas.

The 18-70 is 1.5 crop factor essentially a 27mm to 105mm normal lens.

 

The Tokina 12-24mm can not be used with Panoweaver 5 to stitch panoramas.

The 12-24 is 1.5 crop factor essentially a 18mm to 36mm sort of wide angle lens.

[edited] However, with a Tokina 10-17  Fisheye is 16mm x 25.5mm  using only a 10 [16]mm setting.. taking 6 images around + 1 UP and 1 Down (total 8 image) can be used with Panoweaver 5.

[edited] The Sigma 8mm costs about the $$ame as the Tokina 10-17 and only needs 4 images around with no up/ down total (4 images) also can be used with Panoweaver 5.

Hope that clarifies the lens topic.

 


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Thank you for explaining this

I just ordered the Sigma 8mm F/3.5 EX DG.  Will be getting it next week


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Quote: Originally posted by 360texas on January-29-2008

However, with a Tokina 10-22 Fisheye is 16mm x 33mm  using only a 10 [16]mm setting.. taking 6 images around + 1 UP and 1 Down (total 8 image) can be used with Panoweaver 5.

The Sigma 8mm costs about the same as the Tokina 10-22 and only needs 4 images around with no up/ down total (4 images) also can be used with Panoweaver 5.

Hope that clarifies the lens topic.

 


Actually the Tokina is a 10-17mm Fisheye.

Regards, Smooth


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Thanks, you are correct.  I do not have this lens.. so I was guessing.

Last year, I did test the Tokina 10-17 for a friend of mine in the UK.  It works something like the full frame Nikkor 10.5.  8 around the horizon and for sure 1 zenith and 1 nadir.  The UP/Down's are necessary because you get a very large black hole in the top and bottom if you only take 6 on the horizon.

By the way.  Rodgrio reports that the Tokina gets extremely sharp imaging at f/11 and infinity.  The work on his page is done with a Canon 350d and Tokina 10-17mm at f/11 at infinity and a NN5.  All RAW images.

After you visit this page select  "Florence" to see what it will do at FULL SCREEN.  You should see them on a 24" Samsung LCD monitor. 

http://www.360panoview.co.uk/


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WOW!
One quick 'newbie' question - how easy is it to take those top n bottom shots? I keep imagining I'd bump the tripod and have to start all over again.

I still am amazed at these images - I have to use HDR on my wee 5000 to get skies like that and buildings like those...

waa

 


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The L type bracket like the NN5  and Mrotator UT have an arm that rotates the camera Sigma 8, Tokina 10-17 or Nikkor 10.5 lens straight up and straight down (yes you take a picture of the top of the pan head).  Easy yes I would say so.
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Quote: Originally posted by 360texas on January-28-2008

Unless the MRotator U using the  "M" style Rotator" ... the click stops are at every 60 degrees which means either 6 @60 = 360 or 3 at 120 degrees = 360.   With a Canon 350d or 20d and a Sigma 8,  I do not think that you get sufficient overlap between the 3 images at 120 degrees.

With the MRotator U "T Rotator"  you get alot of click stop variations including 4 at 90 degrees.   The Mrotator UT is the bracket and rotator combination we are using with the Canon 350d, 20d and 5d.


Yes Dave you are correct on this, the RotatorM has click stops at the 60 degree mark. This though doesn't mean you can't shoot at the 90 degree mark you just want get a "click" which in reality is not big deal. You can also shoot 6 images in rotation and make the most of the sharper centre section of the lens. Fact is, I do this sometimes using the Canon 5D full sensor DSLR. The RotatorM also has a smaller footprint.

I guess it's all a matter of money and what you need. The RotatorT is a very good item and it gets a workout around my place. That said the RotatorM and RingT sees quite a bit also.

Regards, Smooth


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hmm just thinking about that... the click stops are very strong - rotate - click STOP.. but yes you can move the rotator to the needed degree angles.
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Ok guys - sorry again but I've finally got the cash to spend on tripod, panohead and kit. I've got a Nikon D300 and am looking at the Tokina 10-17 and the MrotatorTCP short...(which also lets me use a Sigma 8mm if I get bored taking the shots - is it 6 plus top n bottom with the 10-17 or 8 plus top n bottom (with my D300)...

thank gurus!


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6 plus top and bottom with the tokina 10-17mm lens
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