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2009-11-13
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Version 6 Problem

I put version 6 to the test this week with 60 tours. All I can say is Wow! Stiching problems out the kazu. Same exact images process flawlessly with version 5.

It stitches a litte better with smartblend but for some reason when you use that on version 6 about every 3rd tour the image quarters are a different color. A drastic sharp line right down the center of the room. Using promote remote in manual mode the exposures should be identical. The same images in version 5 using smartblend are flawless. I spent up to two hours on one manually matching stiching points and it was horriable. PW6 would not do it right. PW5 did it without any problems in 2 minutes. What is going on with thier new algorithms in version 6?  Other UI bugs also, like when using manual mode for matching points, you navigate thru the 4 tabs on the left the ones on the right don't pair up automatically like they do in vers 5. If you don't catch that at first you can really mess things up.  I had to stop in the middle of working and go back to version 5 so I could finish my jobs. I should have tried the trial version longer on a full set instead of just on room before I bought it.


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2009-11-19
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Thanks, I will give it a try.

I have a Nodal Ninja. That device is so strong you would not think it could move without extreme force like a fall or something. It is possible something has changed since I first set it up.

As far as the tripod moving on tile and bouncing on carpet. I am thinking of trying this:

Affix some sort of soft rubber that sticks to tile and glass, to the ends of the tripod legs. Like large rubber balls with a hole drilled in them so they slip on the ends of your tripod feet.

A piece of plexiglass (wood will warp) cut to a radius just a little wider than the three tripod legs. Laminate some kind of rubber mat on the top side of the plexiglass a few crows feet pieces from Velcro on the down carpet side. This will provide a solid flat base on padded carpet.


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I will say PW6 requires far more accurate NPP settings than what PW5 required. PW5 forced you to work to a set shooting sequence. PW6 is far more flexible. Are you 100% about your NPP?

Up load a set of images and I will take a look if you like.

Regards, Smooth
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1. I am not sure what the problem was with taking pictures in a clockwise manor. That didn't seem that hard to do. In the real world the tripod is on tile for that is slick, carpet that is heavily padded, the wind blowing on the beach and so on. Mere temperature changes can alter the degree of accuracy required for version six it appears. That is why a right angle on a laser level will never be accurate, 20 degrees in temperature from what it was when calibrated and the right angle is off by an inch in 30 feet. Just because of metal expanding and contracting. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_expansion).
Look at how 6 seams now also, it is all over the place like a jigsaw puzzle. In 5 it was a predictable line. If you had problems you would put stitching points near the line and the problem would be solved. With six it just created more problems, more stitching points and eventually the entire image starts looking like a paper mache puzzle.

2. What does the camera position on the tripod have to do with smartblend producing a seam with 2 different shades while version 5 smartblend is perfect?

These same two problems occurred with a set of 60 rooms it is not just this one. I did all 60 in PW5 without a problem.

http://3dimagetour.com/temp/panoweaver/_MG_8233.JPG
http://3dimagetour.com/temp/panoweaver/_MG_8260.JPG
http://3dimagetour.com/temp/panoweaver/_MG_8251.JPG
http://3dimagetour.com/temp/panoweaver/_MG_8242.JPG

http://3dimagetour.com/temp/panoweaver/PW6-Kitchen.jpg
http://3dimagetour.com/temp/panoweaver/PW6-Kitchen-Smartblend.jpg
http://3dimagetour.com/temp/panoweaver/PW6-Kitchen-Smartblend-2.jpg
http://3dimagetour.com/temp/panoweaver/PW5-Kitchen-smartblend.jpg
http://3dimagetour.com/temp/panoweaver/PW5-Kitchen.jpg

 

 

 

 

 


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Randall,

I hear frustration and you trying to justify why your NPP is incorrect.

Mate, the bottomline is that you need to correct your panohead adjustment for better NPP alignment.

Stitched with PW5


Stitched with PW6


It is clear to see that your left to right position is quite out. It appears you are out by around 2 to 3mm to the left. Correct this and your stitching will improve immensely. Follow my tutorial until you have a perfect round tripod/panohead nadir.

I will say PW5 got it better without adding control points and PW6 needed manual intervention. But this is because as I stated previously it requires a more accurately set NPP. Both PW5 and PW6 are trying to get a stitch from a poorly set up NPP.

Lets answer some of your questions:
1) There is nothing wrong with shooting images in a clockwise manor it is expected.
2) Nothing.

Smartblend is not required for indoor shooting in any case but the blending can come back to the Command line Parameters with TW6 try -v -w -MinSize 32

Ultimately you can continue to use PW5 if you prefer it but even with this being your choice you should correct your NPP, once it's correct your frustration levels will decrease.

Regards, Smooth