panorama software,virtual tour software
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2005-07-13
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New tour test

Hi all

Just wondered if people could test the following and let me know if you spot any bugs?  The low res version should 'hopefully' not be too painful for those modem users out there.

High res:

www.condottiero.com/willen_tour

Low res:

www.condottiero.com/willen_tour2

Cheers

Steiner


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2005-07-14
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Hi Steiner

I like the layout of the skin. Gives me some new idea. The LeftRightUp.. Buttons are dominant, but so everybody should get the purpose of them. Where from did you get the buttons?

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2005-07-14
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The low res works good for me (thanks for thinking of us dial up folks).

I particularly like the tripod cap (that sort of isn't a tripod cap and yet really is!?) in the first panorama. Really good idea I think, nicely executed.

The navigation buttons look nice to me. But a general question that has been bothering me for a long time: does anyone actually ever use buttons to navigate a pano? I doubt it personally. But everyone always seems to include them. Just an observation.

I agree with Smooth, it would be better to size the window and centre it.

Good tour.
Glenn


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2005-07-15
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Hi all

@Smooth - no worries on the constructive criticism buddy - that's exactly what I always look for and you should know by now that I'm not a fragile prima donna! 

Re. the centering/resizing of the window - I have programmed that in but you can only get that by clicking on the button located on the parent page in my personnal website (the tour isn't as yet live on the client site).

@cuetoyou: It's funny you say that, I have also been thinking about the need to keep buttons in the UI.  The only reason I keep them (and make them as large as they are) is mainly out of consideration for either elderly or handicaped users (although I'm sure such visitors will be greatly in the minority). 

Also - as the buttons have Alt tags (or Hints in EasyPano lingo) I'm 'hoping' they will be recognised by browser text readers so that the 'mousless' visitor will be able to navigate through the panos.  Actually - can anyone at EasyPano confirm this?  It's a pretty important accessibility issue.

@inter6300 - the buttons and the UI as a whole were created in PS (Photoshop) and simply exported as the usual slices.

Thanks again and please always feel free to offer suggestions (with me at least).

Cheers

Anthony

 


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I tried to use "JAWS" Job Access With Sound - a text to speech engine for disabled people browsing the internet, and found that JAWS could not read the tour. I know there are a few hundred disability access programs out there that might be able to "read" tourweaver, but i have yet to find any, or hear back from support at easypano.

I personally like to modify the tour movie as they show in the example tours that ship with tourweaver. This way, in addition to the leftrightupdown buttons i also include a play/pause button so the movie can be resumed. And yes, when i find VR tours i do use the nav buttons - sometimes it is nice to not have to click and drag a pano.

Sean.


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Thanks for the feedback Sean, I was afraid of that.  I'll have to do some testing to figure this one out.  Nice to hear from EasyPano on this as well.

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Steiner


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2005-07-17
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did you say you have heard from easypano or that it would be nice to hear from them... if you have heard, i am keenly interested.

do you know if the "hint" text is actually an "alt text" tag or just a java mouseover element?


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No sorry - just that it 'would be' nice to hear from them on this. 

EasyPano support - any ideas?


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2005-07-18
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The comments about text to speech recognition are interesting. Came across a local authority that is working to achieve WC3 standards. They have a problem therefore with putting VT's on their website.
see www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/
Am currently investigating ways to get round the issues raised by the standards at AAA level. Guess this is going to increasingly become an issue particularly with Public Sector sites. Any bright ideas really welcome. Think EP might want to look at this issue to, it is likely to have a significant influence on future market opportunities.
Alan

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Whoops, link went haywire try
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/

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The w3C accessibility standards are, frankly, unrealistic. Not only do they inhibit creativity but they ignore existing and popular technologies such as Flash and Java.

One friend who uses JAWS, the screen reading software for the visually impaired, and has often commented, in frustration, that it has changed very little since he started using it. Yet he is still asked to pay large amounts for upgrades.

A good analogy is what another disabled friend once said to me " I don't really want accessible buildings as much as I need a better wheelchair."

Perhaps if the writers and designers of software for the visually impared made an effort to write more 'intelligent' programs, which did more than read text, the w3C standards would become unecessary and we could all get on with turning the web into a more exciting place.

For those who think me callous: I have worked with disabled people on and off for over 20 years. I also have an eye condition that could render me seriously visually impaired within the next 10 years. Even so I'll take a realistic attitude over fear induced political correctness any day.

>>End of rant <<

Mark
Cheers,
Mark