panorama software,virtual tour software
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we getting away from my original query now though! the flash tours i want to see MUST support fully immersive spherical or cubic images, nothing less
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i agree... however... i will give it a go as it may have other applications... maybe I'll be able to add a flash highlight of something into a pano.
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I seem to remember that EP were talking about an additional output using ActiveX - for TW2. There was a great deal of discussion about the Flash issue at the time. No harm in reminding them though.
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There were some lines on the last VRMag about a dutch flash programmer, but he also responded, that spherical panos in flash are not possible, however, they are working...
http://vrm.vrway.com/vartist/VR_industry/RESIZABLE_CYLINDRICAL_PANORAMA_FLASH_VIEWER.html
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Hmmm sometimes a spherical panorama looks somewhat ok in a flash.. it is only a simple flash scroller and Flash MX.

Here is a mix of QTVR and Flash presentations so you can decide for yourself.  The Flash pano's are "F" flash icon.

http://www.360texas.com/virtualtour/texas/bg/index.htm

We did these because our client needed only flash flavor

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I also would like a flash solution.

I was playing with the trial of qtvr2flash from:
http://www.qtvrtoflash.com/quicktime-vr-flash.html

qtvr2flash works ok, but the outputfile size is huge. To get the same pano as I have from a 200k file 400x300 it produces a file of 800 - 1000k.

And it's not a full 180 degree. This wouldt disturb me too much.

What Iam now looking for, is a software, that produces a cylindrical picture out of my shperical panos. Any idea?

As far as I learnd, one could pack a whole flash tour into one exe file. And this would be great.

So I really, really hope, easypano is cooking a flash solution.

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Quote: Originally posted by Thomas on November-04-2005
Ajay, you are on the wrong way, this is only a "walk" through a 2D picture. The best working examples are from www.FlashVR.de - but also here only a warped cylinder, not spherical.

The SPi-V Shockwave Player from Aldo Hoeben is great for ADR and HDR panos. Running this panos from CD works very good, but for the web the user needs quite always to install the Shockwave plugin.

Bernhard Vogl has some nice demos:
http://dativ.at/fotos/panoramas/adr/miesweg3_adr3.html
http://dativ.at/fotos/panoramas/adr/uprat5_adr3.html


Wow, those demos are fabulous and you are right, I did have to install the plugin. Is it me or does the Field of View adjust to the lighting associated with the pano?

Anyhow, I thought that people should look into this since they have a strong presence in the virtual tour business.
http://www.circlepix.com/home/T3MSHJ

More of a reason why Easypano should include FLASH as an output.
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I can't see this happening until such time Flash can display a spherical projection.

Easypano has always been about fisheye images - though Tourweaver can project cylindrical images as a whole it is not the desirable way.

Easypano was - and hopefully still is working on a Shockwave solution. It was to be part of Panoweaver 4.0 and was pulled at the very last minute along with FlyVR. (The later pulled in the first upgrade after release) FlyVR was ActiveX.

I have never seen a Flash panorama that was any good in my opinion. Scrollers are hopeless and as mentioned already the file size is not desirable either.

Maybe the skin and map could output as Flash but as for the viewer NO THANKS!

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Whatever solution is ultimatly introduced regarding the Flash issue, it must take account of the W3C accessibilty standards - certainly in the UK all public sector websites must work to comply with these standards, which effectivly means they will not buy into the Java driven EP products. I guess this is not only a UK issue!


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I know its quite possible to make a 3d cube in flash and rotate it, so why hasnt someone as yet made a 3d cube so your inside it and be able to control it within parameters, then all that needs to be done is map the cube faces on to the cube and voila cubic panoramas in flash! Of course its probably a lot harder that it sounds but come on you flash developers, lets see what you can do!