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Message posted by daugaard47 on January-12-2007 at 11:27pm

November-10-2006
113 Posts

with my panos i take i can get some very nice high quality images,but when i publish them to the web it crashes the tour because the images are too big .so i go into photoshop and reduce the file quality so they meet the under 5ookb rule. but when i do that i lose the crisp images i have and the images end up looking like crap.MY question is how do i get the panos to reduce down to under 500kb but still keep the nice crisp photos?

oh by the way that jenny girl said TW 2.0 will be realeased in three weeks lol i hope there not getting our hopes up again for yet another let down:-(

Message posted by mstoss on January-13-2007 at 4:25am

Germany
December-26-2006
141 Posts

This is exactly why I will not buy TW 1.3. Have a closer look at the quality of ALL panoramas in the gallery, not the interfaces. Search the web for VTs and you will easily recognise the tours made with TW by their good interface design and functions - and by their bad panorama image quality.

When people were used to IPIX quality and bought VTs because it was cool to have one alone, TW 1.3 tours were a better choice than IPIX. Now the techniques for producing high quality images with DSLR and sophisticated stitchers are widely used and my clients don't want that low quality images in IPIX or TW 1.3 style. And to be honest: I DON'T WANT TO PRODUCE THIS LOW QUALITY EITHER!

I'm waiting like all others on TW 2.0 which I have been told should have a much improved player.

... well. I'm getting tired of waiting after all...

Michael

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http://www.premiumpano.de

Message posted by daugaard47 on January-13-2007 at 5:55am

November-10-2006
113 Posts

ok look at this sample tour and tell me what you guys think.there are 3 shots of the living room .starting off with the low quality shot first ,then mid quality and then full quality .i would like all the shots in the tour to be full quality ,but it seems to make the tour lag of crash if they were all full quality.by the way the rest of the shots are at the lowest quality.

http://www.lakeareavirtualtours.com/tours/samplequality%20test/Tourviewer_samplequality-test.html

Message posted by mstoss on January-13-2007 at 7:48am

Germany
December-26-2006
141 Posts

hm... does not seem to make that much of a difference to me, all panoramas are blurred. But this is not your fault, it IS the bad player.

See what can be done with a 251kb file indoor cylindrical image using ptviewer:

premiumpano.de/ ->select player: JAVA, select section: Ausstellung, select example: Kchenstudio

Yours,
Michael

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http://www.premiumpano.de

Message posted by smooth on January-13-2007 at 8:32am

Australia
November-23-2002
5401 Posts

While there is something in what you are saying it is not as bad as you are making out. The viewer works well "if" you resize and optimize correctly. Downsizing an image is not just a case of typing in the numbers in Photoshop and saving for web.

To downsize correctly it takes a mathematical algorithm that sharpens on each of the downsizing steps. Downsizing needs to be done in stages. This is best done using purpose built software. Like www.kissmyimage.com or better still FM Digital Darkroom Web Presenter (WP) Pro.

Jerkiness with Tourweaver viewer (most times) gets confused with the fact that people build their tours way too large and all the images are being downloaded in the background using up a lot of system resources.

OK, about the complaining about the delays in the release of Tourweaver 2.0. Firstly it does annouy me also. But you should consider the following.

No point releasing something that isn't right or finished just to please people who want it now.
They isn't a product that is better than Tourweaver 1.30 at this stage. (Yes, I will argue the point) Tourweaver Pro is "Unbranded" nobody else offers this.

Something you don't want to know.

Tourweaver 2.0 doesn't contain a "Flash" viewer. (this has been stated previously by Danny) it is not new news!

So there you go, it won't be too long now and there isn't anything better out there anyway. While your waiting "learn" how to resize and optimize images correctly so you have something up your sleeve for when it does get released.

Regards, Smooth