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Message posted by realtor jerry on April-12-2008 at 9:31pm
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This is my first attempt at doing a 3x5 bracketed tour. I used Photomatix for the HDR. The shots were bracket of 0EV, +2, +1, -1, -2.  I know some of the windows didn't turn out great, I need to pay more attention to the initial set-up.
Any and all comments will be appreciated.
http://realty360tours.com/pro_tour/145_grandview_idx/_flashvr/TourWeaver_145_grandview_idx.html

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Message posted by 360texas on April-13-2008 at 10:44am
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Hi Jerry,  I am assuming your took these images at 4 at 90 around the horizon.  If you only took 3 at 120  just apply the technique.

Interesting and color intense.  Yes, but then as a potential buyer I would not really looking out the window....  meaning  YES I can see some identifyable features,  trees, grass other buildings.  I would be focusing on the property interior layout.

Observations.  The FC-E9 lens is noted for its chromatic abberations as seen in the front outdoor image  ... glowing bark trees.

Photoshop cs3 allows you to open your Nikon 8700 +2, +1, -1, -2 single .jpeg images into Adobe Camera Raw.  Adjust the Chromatic abberation to remove the red fringe in all 4 images.  Adjust the color temperature of all 4 to be same.  Save that set of 4 out as 8bit TIFF's.

Load the next set of 4 images and apply using previous conversion settings.

Repeat wash and rinse for the remaining 2 image set.

Open Photomatix and load that 1st set of 4 and merge into 1 HDR final 8bit tiff.

Repeat wash and rinse for the balance of image sets.

NOW stitch your final set of TIF's into 1 large image

In photoshop... apply sharpening.

Biggest issue I saw with your interior images is the Color Temperature. 

If the images are to yellow  or orange, it means the lighting is incandescent - adjust your camera for incandescent. 

If the images are too blue/ green.. the lighting is flourescent - adjust your camera accordingly.

Where you have known mixed natural outdoor window light, flourescent and incandescent lighting.. it will certainly confuse the camera.  Suggest using a 18% neutral gray card positioned in the scene on the floor  in a test photo.  Later do color correction in photoshop.

Hope this helps

 



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Message posted by realtor jerry on April-13-2008 at 7:00pm
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Thanks Dave, ever little bit helps in the long run. Unfortuntily I don't have CS3, I am using Elements5. Any way to do it with that program?
I was shooting at 120 with a bracket of 5 shots, 0, +2, +1, -1, -2.



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Jerry,

Dave is correct you really need to fix the chromatic aberration as the glow edges do detract from the panoramas. I'm not sure what the HDR works for your work other than give a feeling of unrealism and gives that funny HDR colour pallet.

All in all it is quite a good tour but is let down because of the limitations of the Coolpix at fullscreen.

Look to PTLens, Adobe Raw Converter or the recently mentioned FM Digital Darkroom Plug-in mentioned in this thread.

Regards, Smooth


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Thanks Smooth, I have the FM Plug-in and it doesn't seem to work as well with the inside shots. What I am trying to do with the HDR is keep from having the blown-out windows. I seem to be able to get more realistic colors with the HDR as well. When I don't use it the colors are no where close to the actual colors.
Is there any way to fix the crhomatic aberration without CS3?

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Quote: Originally posted by realtor jerry on April-14-2008
I seem to be able to get more realistic colors with the HDR as well. When I don't use it the colors are no where close to the actual colors.
Is there any way to fix the crhomatic aberration without CS3?

If you feel these colours are more factual then I believe you need to have your monitor colour calibrated. They are not offensive but to me unnatural.

Fix CA without Photoshop? Sure, as I pointed out in the other thread "PTLens" standalone and plug-in versions exist ($15.00 USD).

It is also possible you make get more realistic "Tone Mapping" with "enfuse" which is free along with "enfuseGUI".

Regards, Smooth


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Hey realtor jerry,

Nice talking with you today Let's get together and shoot some panos sometime!

Dave & Smooth have really covered all the major points of your tour. I have included a link to help with the down size of your image, as the tour loaded very slowly for me.

Image Down Size

Overall nice job!
Regards, Pixel

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Thanks to everyone. I will try all the links and post an update of this tour after I figure it all out. Took a quick look at PTLens and really like what I saw. Nice talking with you today to Pixel. We will have to work on getting together.

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I think Elements 5 uses Adobe Camera Raw converter.. but only for RAW images  not for .jpg's.

If you are a business, you can write off Photoshop CS3 on your annual income tax as an expense.  And if you have set up a business account with Adobe or other retail store - you can buy Photoshop CS3 and not pay sale tax.  At least here in Texas its this way.



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