panorama software,virtual tour software
Alternate Text
Joined: 2008-05-10
Send Msg:
Posts: 590
2009-05-14
#1

HotSpot to Popup issues

Hi All, long time no visit! Been busy on a long video project but now am back on the Tourweaver :)

I am up to speed with the lastest version on TW4 but I am having a few troubles with the hotspots. I have a hotspot on a scene with an action to open a popup window. On my popup window I have a control button with an action to close the popup window. Those basic function works fine.

Now when I play the movie and click on the hotspot the movie stops, the popup window opens but when I click on close the popup windows closes ok but the movie remains paused. If I apply a secondary action the the close popup window button to resume play it takes me back to the beggining of the movie :(

Outside of the scene viewer I have soem control buttons that open popupwindows with links to pictures and all of these have close buttons and they work perfectly well and do not interrupt the movie.

I can work around this by having my popup window as an image on the hotspot but may be I am doing something wrong.

Any ideas much appreciated.


Apartment rentals Nerja

Villa rentals Nerja

Accommodation Nerja

Alternate Text
Joined: 2004-04-21
Send Msg:
Posts: 60
2009-05-22
#2

Take the following sample as an example: http://www.easypano.com/Gallery/Tourweaver400/test/TourWeaver_Project5.html
1. Start the virtual tour and let's suppose the movie auto run to Point A of Scene 1. You click on the scene to stop it. At this time, the movie is already considered to be interrupted and paused because of your manual interruption.
2. You drag it to Point B, where there is a hotspot. Click on B, and it enters Scene 2 and you drag it to Point C.
3. Now you dont want to manually rotate it anymore, so you click Play/Pause Movie to let it resume automatically.
4. What you want is to let it start from C and go ahead, but you find it starts from A.

Here is your question: why does the movie re-start from the very beginning but not from C?
Answer: Because the movie was actually interrupted and paused at A. The interactive operation from B to C is done by people. When you resume the movie, it has to start from where it was interrupted.

Question 2: I have entered Scene 2, and dont want to go back to Scene 1, why cannot the movie resume from C where I drag it to? 
Answer: If we can make the movie not go back to Scene1, but re-start from C, I have some questions for you to help us on how to make the movie go ahead.
1). As you know, movie is a preset path. For a preset path, the program can easily judge where it stops and know how to resume it after interruption. But the operation from B to C was done by people, if the movie resumes from C, which is not in a preset path, what should be the next step? Turn right, left, zoom in or zoom out?
2) Suppose Scene 2 is included in the default Movie, and point C is also included in the preset frames of the movie. Then the program may resume from the frame where C is. What if Scene 2 or Point C is not at all included in the movie you set? You know you can select part of the scenes for a movie, and also you can limit the pan of any scene.

Maybe what you need is not a Play/Pause Movie action, but another action to Auto Play Scene after manual interruption?
Please let me know.


Best regards,
Carol
Easypano
Alternate Text
Joined: 2002-11-23
Send Msg:
Posts: 5435
2009-05-22
#3

Carol,

You make valid points but people don't expect the action as it is.

Maybe better to have the option to resume from nearest position on the movie track from where you are last or show a pop-up/splash viewer overlay that states "returning to movie track before manual interruption" with it slowly returning to that point instead of the immediate restart that it is at the moment. This also could be done instead with a transition. As it is at the moment is very abrupt and confusing to the viewer.

At the very least if a viewer has manually clicked through to another completely different scene the resume of movie track should start again on the current scene not way back where the manual interruption occurred.

Regards, Smooth


Alternate Text
Joined: 2004-04-21
Send Msg:
Posts: 60
2009-05-22
#4

Hi Smooth,

Thanks for the reply.

At the very least if a viewer has manually clicked through to another completely different scene the resume of movie track should start again on the current scene not way back where the manual interruption occurred.

>>If 4 scenes are imported in a virtual tour, but only scene 1, 2, 3 are added in the movie track. Scene 4 can be reached only manually by thumbnail or hotspot. When you click a hotspot to go to scene 4, and then click Play/Pause Movie, where do you want to go back?


Best regards,
Carol
Easypano
Alternate Text
Joined: 2002-11-23
Send Msg:
Posts: 5435
2009-05-22
#5

Well that would be a case of a poor movie track.

It should then return to the last place in the movie that hasn't been auto played.

There will always be arguments for and against everything in life. What we set out to achieve is to give the viewer what is "expected" no matter how stupid it is (or they are!)

Regards, Smooth


Alternate Text
Joined: 2004-04-21
Send Msg:
Posts: 60
2009-05-22
#6

For program developing, we have to consider all factors that may affect any function. The seemingly poor case may be used by our customer and cause unexpected result if we dont consider them. This is what our RD team has to think of. So we need know which kind of movie track you use most, and how you use the movie track usually.

Well that would be a case of a poor movie track.>>This is the information I need.

 

There are 2 modes for the virtual tour, preset mode and interactive mode (manual operation). Its easy for a program to control the preset mode but difficult to record all the manual operation which can be arbitrary. When the two modes are mixed together and can be switched at any time, the program has to be to given a clear logic to judge the status.

 

So if possible, please let me know as many details as possible when and how you use the movie track. There may be no prefect solution, but at least we can try to find a better or best one.


Best regards,
Carol
Easypano
Alternate Text
Joined: 2004-04-21
Send Msg:
Posts: 60
2009-05-14
#7

Hi nerjaace,

Do you mean something like this sample?

http://www.easypano.com/Gallery/Tourweaver400/test/TourWeaver_Project7.html

There is a hotspot on the first scene. Click it, movie stops and a popup window opens. Close the popup window, movie plays again.

Project download link: http://www.easypano.com/Gallery/Tourweaver400/test/Project7.zip


Best regards,
Carol
Easypano
Alternate Text
Joined: 2008-05-10
Send Msg:
Posts: 590
2009-05-15
#8
Thanks Carol, yes that is right. When the movie plays again does it always re-start that scene? What a shame??

Apartment rentals Nerja

Villa rentals Nerja

Accommodation Nerja

Alternate Text
Joined: 2004-04-21
Send Msg:
Posts: 60
2009-05-15
#9
When the movie plays again, it re-starts from where it stops.
Best regards,
Carol
Easypano
Alternate Text
Joined: 2008-05-10
Send Msg:
Posts: 590
2009-05-15
#10

With the example you gave me above it retarts the scene from the start on my PC! Win XP IE6 Latest Flash Version.


Apartment rentals Nerja

Villa rentals Nerja

Accommodation Nerja

Alternate Text
Joined: 2002-11-23
Send Msg:
Posts: 5435
2009-05-15
#11
Quote: Originally posted by carol on May-15-2009
When the movie plays again, it re-starts from where it stops.

No, it doesn't the movie starts from the very beginning again. As soon as you close the pop-up the movie track reverts to the very beginning.

Tested with:

  • Windows XP SPIII, IE 7.0
  • Windows XP SPIII, Firefox 3.0.10
  • Windows XP SPIII, Google Chrome 1.0.154.65
  • Windows XP SPIII, Opera 9.64

Regards, Smooth